In this sample from the Doll Museum interview, Samy Odin talks more about the transformation of dolls from representing adults to representing children and babies. In the early- and mid-19th century, dolls allowed girls to try on the role of an adult. That changed in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Listening suggestion: Listen to this 8 to 10 times, then test yourself: can you follow the recording without looking at the text?

You can listen to the whole interview here: Le Musée de la Poupée à Paris